St. Michaels ACBS Antique & Classic Boat Festival

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ACBS Antique & Classic Boat Festival
St. Michaels, Maryland
Chesapeake Bay Chapter of the ACBS presents
Father’s Day Weekend, June 17, 18, 19, 2016
Fri. 11am – 5pm; Sat., 10 am-5 pm; Sun., 10 am-2 pm
ADMISSION
Individual Admission – Good for Two Days!
• $5 per person for CBMM Members and member guests
• $18.00 Adults
• $15.00 Seniors 62+ & students with ID
• $6.00 Kids 6-17
• Children ages 5 and under are freeVisit www.chesapeakebayacbs.org (http://cbmm.org/events/annual-festivals-and-special-events/antique-classic-boat-festival/www.chesapeakebayacbs.org) for more information about the Chesapeake Chapter of the ACBS
Visit our DropBox account (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qovzmjywd47s4l3/KsaZA5f7a5) to download high resolution images, or email mthomas@cbmm.org. All photos are © Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum.
Wooden classics, vintage race boats, and other antique and Chesapeake Bay-related boats are coming to the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum for the 29th annual Antique & Classic Boat Festival in St. Michaels, MD. Hosted by the Chesapeake Bay Chapter of the Antique & Classic Boat Society (ACBS), this Father’s Day weekend event brings an era of by-gone days to the Miles River and CBMM’s waterfront campus.
This year, the festival features a selection of Chesapeake Bay-built workboats, including the Chesapeake deadrise and buy boat seen dockside at the museum. Along with the East Coast’s largest collection of antique and classic boats, the festival’s signature Arts at Navy Point pavilion brings 70 juried fine artists, craftspeople, and vendors offering nautical and maritime-themed items for boat and home.
Boats range from runabouts to yachts, including race boats, work boats, launches, hydroplanes, and utilities. Workshops and seminars, building demonstrations, family activities, and a nautical flea market will be available throughout the weekend, along with a selection of regional and grilled foods, music, and a Pyrat rum bar for libations and other drinks.
Children’s activities include boatbuilding craft projects, and the Hagerty Insurance Marine Youth Judging program, where youth learn about the award-winning qualities of preserved and restored classic boats. Along the Fogg’s Landing side of CBMM’s campus, the festival’s Field of Dreams features an array of restorable classic boats and motors, along with other items in a nautical flea market sale.
REMINDER: During CBMM festivals and special events, dogs ARE NOT permitted on Museum grounds, with the exception of certified service dogs. Leashed dogs ARE permitted on Museum grounds during regular business hours.
Festival hours are Friday from 11 a.m. to 5 p.m.; Saturday from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.; and Father’s Day, Sunday from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. The festival includes two-day admission to all museum exhibits where authentic Chesapeake boats and traditions are highlighted. The event is $5 for CBMM members and children under six, or $18 for adults; $15 for seniors and students with ID; and $6 for children 6-17. Boat rides and food are an additional cost. For more information, call 410-745-2916.

[Ghost]

Should have the Cig there in the water. Booked a B&B room in town this year--I intend to spend less time under the gun to finish and more enjoying the boats.

[seabuddy7]

Registration is now open for June 17-20 Chesapeake Bay-ACBS (St Michaels, MD) Boat Festival. Open that Annual Boat Festival tab and IN RED INK within the link below is the 2016 form as a PDF for this year's program and show. Note: new Monday event.

http://www.chesapeakebayacbs.org/information

Two in-water events this year. Friday and a new one on Monday.

I have do not have any role in this event, but am still a member of the club. E-mail me if you have a question. brcwb@aol.com

[seabuddy7]

Both of you know the show. Do you feel that fiberglass gets a share shake?

[Ghost]

Seems like it from where I sit (or at the absolute least, I couldn't say fiberglass doesn't get a fair shake). You guys were more than gracious and inclusive toward us, and I'm very much looking forward to returning this June. I suppose some folks might get to religious arguments about wood versus glass, but there seemed to be plenty of glass boats and enthusiasm for them, and the woodie crowd seemed as genuinely interested as anyone. 😀 Really, my sense was that there wasn't a divide at all, just people who enjoy classics.

I'd strongly encourage folks to come out with their boats, and to view the show. Great stuff, great people, great time. Lisa and I already booked a B&B in town and expect to be in the water this year. My goal is to spend Friday on the Miles, giving out rides to fellow ACBSers.

[f_inscreenname]

I agree with Mike. Our chapter has been great from day one with me. A very friendly and inviting group. From what I saw on the thread with the Florida show sounded the same.
I do have to say if I would have read the letters to the editor in the latest issue of Rudder before I joined I may have not done it. I know these are open letters but they reinforce every stereotype of the ACBS.
First, regardless if a year / style boat would qualify or not for entry into a show to refer to these boats as “garbage” is sickening to hear from a fellow ACBS boater or any boater for that matter.
I know there is an issue with the cut off dates and how the acbs would come up with them. Like according to the old rules my old 1976 Donzi 18 wouldn’t qualify but it came out of the same mold as the earlier versions that do qualify. Then there is the 25 year rule. Is a boat from 1991 considered an antique or classic? And if not how many wood boats at these shows that were built in the last 25 years are? Should these boats be bumped for older glass boats? It’s not the Antique and Classic Wood Boat Society it’s the ACBS.
These so called members also came up with ideas like, allowing glass boats to register and if a wood boat came in late they would bump the “garbage” boat for it, not bother allowing them to join because they will turn it into a modern day glass club that no one will be interested in, when it comes to dock space modern owners will run off “traditional” owner who will get mad and not come back, charge a lot more money for entry to shows to keep some out, let them join the club but not the shows, etc, etc.
This is why some chapters are going to fail and I think the Chesapeake Bay chapter will survive. I know Chris’s goal when I first met him was putting out an olive branch to classic glass owners. The reason I even looked into it in the first place was seeing on Chris’s web page the FiberClassic Award the year before going to a 1973 Nova 24 at a show I would have never thought of entering before seeing it. I love wood boats as much as the next guy and probably a little more being I grew up with them but let’s face it they are a lot of time, skills and especially money not to mention the tools and space to do it in when it comes to wood boats. You can spend 10 grand buying 20 feet of kindling and then dump more then what my first house cost into one long before it’s ever ready for a show. And they are not getting cheaper being there is less and less of them. If they want the ACBS to be a snooty rich guys club, beside Ghost (lol) I can see where some would be put off with that kind of entry fee.
The ACBS needs to step up. They need to figure out what they are going to do about the cutoff date (25 sounds too low even for me). What about boats like my old Donzi that the same boat was built for decades out of the same molds before and after the cut off dates. Justify new wood boats and not glass. If they are going to embrace glass like they say they need to step up and own it with reasonable rules, fair treatment and leave it up to the chapters to regulate their shows so they are not “over run” if any chapter is overly blessed by running out of space because of to many entered boats for a show. If they have too many entries of any class let everyone enter at full price and have a pre-show run off for the show slots. No reason wood owners would get overrun with proper chapter management. Get the rules fair and straight and there is no reason for wood and glass owners should have any issues.

[olredalert]

----The Michigan Chapter is also stepping up in a big way. I'm proud to be a member, and I'm not a particularly good member, but they tolerate me with all my faults. I managed to nab best of show with the Fino (1st fiberglass boat to do so at an ACBS meet, ever!). Ill take that to the grave with me as one of my all-time best days.......Bill S

[Ghost]

----The Michigan Chapter is also stepping up in a big way. I'm proud to be a member, and I'm not a particularly good member, but they tolerate me with all my faults. I managed to nab best of show with the Fino (1st fiberglass boat to do so at an ACBS meet, ever!). Ill take that to the grave with me as one of my all-time best days.......Bill S

Congrats, that's an amazing feat! :)

[f_inscreenname]

----The Michigan Chapter is also stepping up in a big way. I'm proud to be a member, and I'm not a particularly good member, but they tolerate me with all my faults. I managed to nab best of show with the Fino (1st fiberglass boat to do so at an ACBS meet, ever!). Ill take that to the grave with me as one of my all-time best days.......Bill S

I'm overly happy with two best race boat wins (coming for #3 this year) with two glass boats. Best of Show.....WOW!:thumbs

I know there is a lot of Donzi and other performance boat folks on the Bay, come on down. Even if you don't bring a boat. Mike and I should be easy to find.
Its a great little town with hotels from basic to super high end, plenty of little shops and restaurants to explore. The Museum, the show, the flee market, the vendors, there's a lot to do. Or do nothing at all and take it all in with a drink in hand.

The registration is out >>>>>> http://www.chesapeakebayacbs.org/images/PDFs/2016_CBC_Boat_Festival_Reg_Form_FINAL.pdf

[MadPoodle]

Why wouldn't they let the 76 in?

[f_inscreenname]

Why wouldn't they let the 76 in?
At one time our chapters rules would not let a 1976 in because of the cutoff date. The point is there is not much difference between a 1973 that would have made it and 1976 that wouldn't. Now they are talking about a 25 year cutoff but what difference would there be between a 1990 and a 1991? Not like they are car styles that revamp their line every year. Even when Donzi was sold to a different company the hulls still came out of the same molds.
Just a technical issue.

[olredalert]

----I hesitate to mention this but nobody is looking at the HIN when you check in. If it walks like a duck. Just sayin!!!!!!!.......Bill S

[MadPoodle]

Used to be 30 years I think? I like the new 25 year cutoff, opens up a lot of possibilities.

[bertsboat]

Where can I find this fiberglass article?
Fiberglass boats were snubbed at the Clayton show last year and we will not be going this year for that reason.

We didn't care if we won anything but there was a fellow that brought a late 60'S outboard and displayed it in the water and they didn't even have the decency to judge it or ant glass for that matter and a judge was overheard saying "nothing for the glass boats this year"
Thats OK, there are plenty of places for us to spend our money.

This year at the Tavares show fiberglass and wood was king! I agree that all the new builds made of wood get some special pass but they let a fer new fiberglass builds in and they too were a hit. Heck, we even had a fiberglass Ski Nautique 2001 on our dock.

[f_inscreenname]

Where can I find this fiberglass article?
Fiberglass boats were snubbed at the Clayton show last year and we will not be going this year for that reason.

We didn't care if we won anything but there was a fellow that brought a late 60'S outboard and displayed it in the water and they didn't even have the decency to judge it or ant glass for that matter and a judge was overheard saying "nothing for the glass boats this year"
Thats OK, there are plenty of places for us to spend our money.

This year at the Tavares show fiberglass and wood was king! I agree that all the new builds made of wood get some special pass but they let a fer new fiberglass builds in and they too were a hit. Heck, we even had a fiberglass Ski Nautique 2001 on our dock.

It was in last quarters "Stuffing Box" magazine in the "Open Exhaust" section. There was 2 letters that just made the ACBS look like total snobs. The latest quarter issue had to expand the Open Exhaust section for all the letters that came in blasting those 2 letters without mercy. Very nice to see and reaffirms my original impression of our national club. Never had a doubt about the Chesapeake Bay Chapter.

[MadPoodle]

A lot of entry forms have a box to check if you want to be judged, bs just displaying your boat...


Whats closest airport to the show?

[Ghost]

A lot of entry forms have a box to check if you want to be judged, bs just displaying your boat...


Whats closest airport to the show?

BWI is the closest major airport. Under 90 minutes away.

[f_inscreenname]

BWI is the closest major airport. Under 90 minutes away.

That's a major airport. I'm sure there is a smaller airport closer that can handle M/P's privet jet if he brings the smaller one. :D

[f_inscreenname]

Renewed my membership and sent the paper work off for the show. :thumbs
Hope to see you there.

[f_inscreenname]

Here is a newer wood boat from the show that I seriously tried to make a trade for (not telling you what I offered).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAe7sOOuU-I

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/f_inscreenname/12_3.jpg

[f_inscreenname]

As if you needed another reason to come to the show, here is a list of the seminars.
One month away!
Hope to see you all there.
George



2016 Antique and Classic Boat Festival
At the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum, St. Michaels, MD

Boating History Seminars: Friday, June 17 and Saturday, June 18


FREE to all Visitors with the price of admission to the Museum


Friday, June 17
1:00 PM “Trumpy and Wooden Yacht Construction on the Chesapeake”
Presented by CBMM Curator Pete Lesher
2:00 PM “The Story of Trumpy from Delaware River to Spa Creek – Three Generations”
Special presentation with Don Trumpy
3:00 PM “How World War II Shaped the Great Boat Builders of Annapolis”
With Historian and Writer Mike Miron


Saturday, June 18
11:00 PM “Presidential Yachts from Despatch to Sequoia (and a bit of Honey Fitz)”
Presented by Jeff Beard, Past President, Chesapeake Bay Chapter, ACBS
1:00 PM “M M Davis Yachts and CruisAlong Boats of Solomons, MD”
Conversations with Author Geoffrey Footner
2:00 PM “Speed on Water: Chris Craft and Bertram to Donzi and Cigarette”
Talk and images provided by “Seabuddy” Chris Bro

[f_inscreenname]

Hey folks, the show is coming up in just a couple weeks and a friendly reminder that you all should make an effort to attend. Lots of cool stuff to see at the show and there is the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum on the grounds, St Michaels the historic town itself, restaurants, shops, bars with live bands … plenty to do or do nothing at all.
If you all mention this website I will let you stand at the steering wheel and look down the same deck Allen “Brownie” Brown did many times and I’ve been told the great Don Aronow once did back in the late 1960’s during the heyday of offshore racing. You all have herd Brownie’s adventures in this boat ( http://www.powerboatnation.com/brown...anna-have-fun/ (http://www.powerboatnation.com/brownies-bites-boys-and-girls-just-wanna-have-fun/) ). Now come see his engineering creation in person and if you are there at just the right time there may be a ride happening.

http://www.supernova19.com/108818000.jpg

[f_inscreenname]

Coming up this weekend! :thumbs

[Ghost]

See you there!

[Ghost]

Going in early tomorrow. Parking lot duty in the rain at 8AM will get old, but by 1-2-3 o'clock it should be beautiful. Come on out!

Sat-Sun weather looks perfect.

[f_inscreenname]

Come stand where legends have stood. :thumbs


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[Ghost]

BIG day for the Supernova race boat! People's Choice Award, ACBS Chesapeake Best Non-Wood, and ACBS NATIONAL BEST NON-WOOD!

[Phil S]

Congratulations !!

[MadPoodle]

Awesome, and well deserved. Congratulations Mark!!

[woobs]

Congratulations Mark!

Our ACBS Toronto chapter show is July 9th. There are pre-event runs on both the 6th and 7th with a poker run on the 8th. Fiberglassics welcome and judged if you want to be. Show entry is free to ACBS members. Judging, pre events and poker run have a nominal fee but, all boats are eligible for show sponsor awards.

This years theme is Greavette Boats..."Heading home to Gravenhurst". In fact part of the show grounds are on the of the old Greavette property. Of course, I'll have my Greavette there again and I'm told we already have over 30 of her siblings too. Not bad for a show of about 130 boats. There's something for everyone (except pontoons and PWC's :) )

If you come, make sure to buy a T-shirt!

[f_inscreenname]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I’ll let you all know now the 24 would not have got nearly as much attention if it wasn’t sitting next to the nicest Cigarette on the planet (I’m sure Chris, seabuddy stuffing the ballet box didn't hurt either. Lol.).
I kind of feel like it was a race weekend or something. All the prep work was done and it was time to run what you brung until it was done.
Burned about 45 gallons of gas (most ever of any year), everyone got a taste of the throttles firewalled (even if it was with the wrong prop), fell in the boat and did something to my ankle that it now has a bump it didn’t before, something sounds a bit of a miss with the rear motor, looks like the Exxon Valdese crashed in my bilge, seems like the drive line got louder (had to do too much slow stuff),on way home a guy at a stop light runs up to the truck to tell me I have a trailer brake that is smoking, pull over on the side of RT-50 to adjust the adjuster all the way off, no brakes on that side and the trailer now wants to pull the truck sideways every time I have to stop, total ass in front of me for 20 miles in stop and go traffic (stopping short by 50 yards, weaving, etc, etc), get home and all the grease seeps out of the second brake drum axel and onto my driveway (whole brake set up is like brand new) and as I’m getting 3 days of St Michaels off the boat I notice this. Think I found out where some of the water is coming from.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/f_inscreenname/14_6.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/f_inscreenname/15_3.jpg

Tomorrow I’ll go inside and asses the damages but you know what? It was all worth it. Ferd got his second ride after 30 years (the first one was with a single sick motor). He is now saying the 427 Fords need to go back in the boat and seemed eager for it to happen. Hummmm…. Chris got a ride. Wasn’t keeping him out of it. Duck Hunter got a ride and we got to watch him rescue a little bird from drowning and return it to its nest (ya a guy with a screen name of DuckHunter did that). I got to act stupid with the boat with the idea that at one point I would have to be towed back to the dock that never happened. And last but not least they shot the boat for our chapter’s calendar. Glass never made the cover, fingers are crossed.
Now that it’s 11 at night, the garage is shut down, everything is put away and I’m sitting in my own basement I can’t wait for next year. This don’t hurt either and no that's not my Natty Bo. :thumbs

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/f_inscreenname/16_2.jpg

Thanks again folks and trust me when I say without a lot of you these awards would have never happen.

[duckhunter]

Very glad I made it to the show - what a great way to start our East coast adventure. There was eye candy everywhere, from tiny Jersey skiffs to every possible type of woody to great old Hatt and Egg motoryachts, and everything in-between. Oh, and a couple of "ok" glass tubs. The Ches Bay Maritime Museum is the perfect venue, and everyone at the show was a big-time boat geek.

Mark - congrats on the recognition for the Nova. Well-deserved and a testament to your passion and hard work. I suspect that the sound effects when you fired up tandem Kiekhaefer big blocks might have influenced the People's Choice award; it was a bit of an attention getter! Thanks also for the ride in the race boat. Between the sound effects and the thought of a spinning driveshaft between my legs it was an unforgettable experience. Glad that the prop strut and the trailer held on until you made it home; holy smokes!

Mike - great seeing you as always, and thanks again for the hospitality. The Cig was definitely well-received by the ACBS audience. Probably just enough brightwork, white interior, and piano black paint to satisfy the sadomasochistic tendencies of the wood boat crowd. Looking forward to learning more about the Bay from that cockpit, although next time I'll bring more beer. Didn't realize that our maiden voyage would take quite that long...

So who brought the blue/blue X18? Nice ride.

[bertsboat]

Maybe next year I will haul Brownie up there in my truck for another ride God willing. What do you think?



Thank you, thank you, thank you. I’ll let you all know now the 24 would not have got nearly as much attention if it wasn’t sitting next to the nicest Cigarette on the planet (I’m sure Chris, seabuddy stuffing the ballet box didn't hurt either. Lol.).
I kind of feel like it was a race weekend or something. All the prep work was done and it was time to run what you brung until it was done.
Burned about 45 gallons of gas (most ever of any year), everyone got a taste of the throttles firewalled (even if it was with the wrong prop), fell in the boat and did something to my ankle that it now has a bump it didn’t before, something sounds a bit of a miss with the rear motor, looks like the Exxon Valdese crashed in my bilge, seems like the drive line got louder (had to do too much slow stuff),on way home a guy at a stop light runs up to the truck to tell me I have a trailer brake that is smoking, pull over on the side of RT-50 to adjust the adjuster all the way off, no brakes on that side and the trailer now wants to pull the truck sideways every time I have to stop, total ass in front of me for 20 miles in stop and go traffic (stopping short by 50 yards, weaving, etc, etc), get home and all the grease seeps out of the second brake drum axel and onto my driveway (whole brake set up is like brand new) and as I’m getting 3 days of St Michaels off the boat I notice this. Think I found out where some of the water is coming from.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/f_inscreenname/14_6.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/f_inscreenname/15_3.jpg

Tomorrow I’ll go inside and asses the damages but you know what? It was all worth it. Ferd got his second ride after 30 years (the first one was with a single sick motor). He is now saying the 427 Fords need to go back in the boat and seemed eager for it to happen. Hummmm…. Chris got a ride. Wasn’t keeping him out of it. Duck Hunter got a ride and we got to watch him rescue a little bird from drowning and return it to its nest (ya a guy with a screen name of DuckHunter did that). I got to act stupid with the boat with the idea that at one point I would have to be towed back to the dock that never happened. And last but not least they shot the boat for our chapter’s calendar. Glass never made the cover, fingers are crossed.
Now that it’s 11 at night, the garage is shut down, everything is put away and I’m sitting in my own basement I can’t wait for next year. This don’t hurt either and no that's not my Natty Bo. :thumbs

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/f_inscreenname/16_2.jpg

Thanks again folks and trust me when I say without a lot of you these awards would have never happen.

[seabuddy7]

"People's Choice" Award winner CBC ACBS Classic Boat Show. He was over the top with his joy that his fiberglass 24' Nova Marine Race Boat was so popular with the crowd at the show. See for the boat. Very special driveline! http://www.supernova19.com/nova_marine_at_supernova19_com.htm

http://www.donzi.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16000&stc=1

[seabuddy7]

PS I got a WOT ride! Fastest one of the show!

[MadPoodle]

"People's Choice" Award winner CBC ACBS Classic Boat Show. He was over the top with his joy that his fiberglass 24' Nova Marine Race Boat was so popular with the crowd at the show. See for the boat. Very special driveline! http://www.supernova19.com/nova_marine_at_supernova19_com.htm

http://www.donzi.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16000&stc=1

Who's the geek in the middle?

Anonymous ;) :)

[f_inscreenname]

Maybe next year I will haul Brownie up there in my truck for another ride God willing. What do you think?

Didn't think Brownie was interested.



Who's the geek in the middle?

Anonymous ;) :)

That was 5 years ago, still need a hair cut.

[MadPoodle]

Didn't think Brownie was interested.




That was 5 years ago, still need a hair cut.

Well I feel better, my fist reaction was crap he isn't getting any older!!

[BUIZILLA]

if my memory is correct, there was a Co. in Jacksonville that was making the struts and rudders...

the name escapes me :Confus1:

[bertsboat]

Jim, that would have been Ellis Propeller. John Rose was the most recent owner. John closed and retired suddenly. Ellis is gone. They were a good source. Sad they are gone. They made propellers, struts, rudders and whatever you needed. Would tru Algonac casting. They may have what you need. They have a new owner now but the place is pretty much as it was for the last 70 years.



if my memory is correct, there was a Co. in Jacksonville that was

making the struts and rudders...

the name escapes me :Confus1:

[BUIZILLA]

Jim, that would have been Ellis Propeller. John Rose was the most recent owner. John closed and retired suddenly. Ellis is gone. They were a good source. Sad they are gone. They made propellers, struts, rudders and whatever you needed. Would tru Algonac casting. They may have what you need. They have a new owner now but the place is pretty much as it was for the last 70 years. that's it !! I think Ellis was where I got some rudder parts for my 28 Cary.

[f_inscreenname]

Well that's not supposed to be that big of a gap and the poly-loc did not back off.:(

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/f_inscreenname/7_9.jpg

[BUIZILLA]

water in the oil and a wiped cam lobe?

[f_inscreenname]

Water in oil but just very little in the top end and a crushed solid roller lifter (roller pin's hole is now oblong) and then a semi wiped out lobe on a pretty rare cam.

[Ghost]

Ouch. Sorry, that sucks.

[BUIZILLA]

there is a Co. I have used for over 40 years that can repair that lobe like new, they do some pretty impressive work.

if that's a COMP roller lifter, it doesn't surprise me

[f_inscreenname]

Hell BUIZILLA that's really good to know. :thumbs What's it cost to have a lobe fixed (just want to know)?
Lucky enough I found another one (original Crane grind) recently and made a deal with the guy today. Pretty sure it will be the last one on the market for some time being it’s the first one I've seen in 2 years. I thought about having Bob M do it but the last time we discussed it on OSO they wanted to change it to something they thought would be better (I mean they really, really wanted to change it to the point I had to leave the thread I started). They just couldn't grasp that I wanted the motor like it was supposed to be when it came from Mr K. Not to mention I have a clone motor at the other end of the boat so it would mean two cam buys and changes.
As for the lifter. F_in breaks my heart. I don't think I have ever lost a cam in 30 years and the majority of them were flat tappet. And I've seriously f_ed up some motors over the years. I hope I'm not jinxing myself but the 19's 496 is cast crank and Comp parts roller motor. Never had any of the "cast crank failures" or "cheap Comp roller parts flying apart". This motor is top of the line everything and its spent more time in the garage then in the boat. Worked fine in the Biesemeyer for a year but for some reason in this boat it wants to melt down and then suck up water every hour or so.
Not sure where the lifters came from and they may even be original. Figure the failure resulted from the heads rebuild I did last fall. New springs, shimmed right ect, ect. I heat cycled the motor last fall and put it away for winter. Sat all winter and then was a short ride the day before the show. I knew something happened on the second day on a ride at the show but had to live up to obligations no matter what and kept running it (and it was worth it). Went to flush it at home after the show and think is when it hydro-locked and barley would start and run so out the motor went. Or at least that’s what I’m going with for now.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b264/f_inscreenname/8_6.jpg

[f_inscreenname]

The real question is would you replace all the lifters or just this one (two piece set really)?